Four and Twenty+ Blackbirds: Edward Kennedy Gets a Mass?

26 August 2009

Edward Kennedy Gets a Mass?

I'm not at all well informed here - but Ted Kennedy gets a funeral Mass? Wasn't he under the minor ban for his very public support of abortion? Didn't the Roman bishops take a pretty firm stand on that back in 2004 when Kerry was running and state that legislators who voted for abortion were banned from receiving Communion? Perhaps he made a sickbed repentance on that - and God be praised if he did.

I ask the question not to look for some excuse to criticize Rome - for surely their Christian discipline in matters of personal morality far outshines our own disjointed efforts. But there's a real question of pastoral care here.

What do you do when someone under the minor ban dies? Perhaps it's not even public that he or she has been barred from the Table by the pastor. What if that person dies while under such a ban? Anybody with experience on this want to speak?

+HRC

4 comments:

William Weedon said...: According to SA III, IX there is only the minor ban...; Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 9:29:00 PM CDT
Chad Myers said...: The practice of Catholicism in America is in a sorry state of affairs, I'm afraid. Unorthodoxy, liberalism, 'progressive ideals', and lax if not outright flouting of Catholic teaching, morals, and theological obligations are the norm (well, the majority). Considering 53% of "Catholics" voted for the most pro-death/abortion Presidential candidate ever, it should be obvious that the US Bishops have a long road to bring orthodoxy. The 60's were very bad for Catholicism as many people adopted a "cafeteria" "follow my own conscience" way of approaching their Catholic faith.

I imagine it wasn't just limited to Catholicism. It seems many Protestant churches are in disarray also (not a slam, just saying that I think Christianity in America as a whole is in bad shape).

Fortunately we Catholics have a good Pope who is bringing many back to Orthodoxy and many of the new post-60's-era Priests are really solid with orthodox views and homilies, etc.

Anyhow, us orthodox Catholics are outraged by Ted Kennedy's career and the complicity of the local Bishops and Priests in his horrific and unprecedented persecution of the unborn.

Nevertheless, he had not been excommunicated (Lord knows why -- many US Bishops, including those in the East are weak on orthodoxy and enforcement). And therefore he may receive certain sacraments (Last Rites) and certain entitlements of confirmed Catholics (namely a Catholic funeral and burial if he so chooses).

His actions and the reactions of many liberal "Catholics" have caused scandal and have confused non-Catholics and brought shame upon the Church.

As far as his soul, it's entirely possible he had a full deathbed conversion and was properly disposed to receive absolution (contrite heart, full remorse, and committed to avoid future sin). I will pray for his soul as we should never wish the torment of eternal separation from God and the pains of Hell, no matter how heinous their crimes. God may judge so, but we should never wish it as it is the most unthinkable form of hate imaginable.; Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 9:38:00 PM CDT
Rev. Larry Beane said...: Dear Chad:

Well said.

Come Lord Jesus!; Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 9:48:00 PM CDT
Pr. H. R. said...: Thanks, Chad - very informative: and like I said, our steadfastness on upholding Christian morality in the lives of our parishioners is no better. Room for repentance all around.

Weedon - care to complete that ellipsis with some insight for our practice?

+HRC; Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 10:24:00 PM CDT

Post a Comment

The Twenty-Four Elders (and a few living creatures)

Rev. Benjamin Ball
St. Paul, Hamel, Illinois

Rev. Larry Beane
Salem, Gretna, Louisiana

Rev. Paul Beisel
Immanuel, Iowa Falls, Iowa

Rev. Peter Bender
Peace, Sussex, Wisconsin

Rev. Eric Brown
Trinity, Herscher, Illinois

Rev. Heath Curtis
Zion, Carpenter, Illinois

Rev. William Cwirla
Holy Trinity, Hacienda Heights, CA

Rev. Dr. Burnell Eckardt
St. Paul, Kewanee, Illinois

Rev. Erich Fickel
St. Paul, Chesterton, Indiana

Rev. William Foy
Prince of Peace, Valparaiso, Indiana

Rev. John A. Frahm III
Trinity, Boulder Junction, Wisconsin

Rev. Robert Franck
Mount Olive, Duluth, Minnesota

Rev. Dr. Gifford Grobien
CTS, Fort Wayne, Indiana

Rev. Dr. Kent Heimbigner
Charity, Burleson, Texas

Rev. Dr. Steven Hein
Colorado Springs, Colorado

Rev. Rich Heinz
St. Johns, Chicago, Illinois

Rev. David Kind
University Lutheran, Minneapolis

Rev. Brent Kuhlman
Trinity, Murdock, Nebraska

Rev. Alan Ludwig, Professor
Lutheran Theological Seminary
Novosibirsk, Russia

Rev. Todd Peperkorn
Holy Cross, Rocklin, California

Rev. J. Richard Sawyer
Good Shepherd, Brandon, Mississippi

Rev. Robert Schaibley, emeritus
Shepherd of the Springs,
Colorado Springs, Colorado

Rev. Dr. Richard Stuckwisch
Emmaus, South Bend, Indiana

Rev. Jacob Sutton
Immanuel, Terre Haute, Indiana

Rev. Ralph Tausz
Apostles, Melrose Park, Illinois

Rev. David Jay Webber
Redeemer, Scottsdale, Arizona

Rev. William Weedon
Lutheran Public Radio, Collinsville, IL

Rev. Dr. Georg Williams
Zion, Ainsworth, Nebraska

Rev. Kyle Wright II
St. Matthew, Hamlet, Indiana

Rubrics and Blogistics for the Blackbirds

Unlike the Ten Commandments, these are not written in stone (though some of them are pretty solid). Those who may be reading over our shoulders might also find these interesting.

1. Be reverent and courteous. Piepkorn's fundamental pair of rubrics for the conduct of the Service are likewise pertinent here. It's simply faith toward God and love toward others. All the other rules and rubrics are an application of those principles to specific questions.

2. Our blog is a public forum, and we are all public servants of the Word. Therefore, what we write and the manner in which we write ought to reflect an appropriate decorum. Though you may sometimes wonder, there are people reading what you have to say. The majority of them will mostly be quiet about it, and many will probably never respond with any comments, but they will benefit, and they will appreciate it.

3. Although this is a public forum, don't be self-conscious about your writing, and don't attempt to play to the crowd. Simply address yourself pastorally to the topics you take up for consideration, as you would respond to members of your own parish who are asking about or need to be told such things as pertain to their Christian faith and life.

4. Don't be intentionally provocative or controversial, but don't shy away from engaging topics in a way that challenges the status quo (from and within the parameters of the Word of God and our common confession of the same). By the same token, let us hold each other accountable to the apostolic doctrine. Do not fear correction, nor fear to question; that is the way in which we learn from one other and sharpen one another for the common good.

5. A helpful rule of thumb is akin to Luther's advice on confession: Don't make blogging into a torture, nor seek to invent things worth saying, as though to impress anyone. Instead, if there are matters weighing on your heart or mind, address them with the Word of God from within your office and station in life, and thereby allow your fathers and brothers in Christ to respond with the Word of the Lord from within their own vocations. (Blogging should not be a kind of virtual confessional; this rubric speaks only to the way in which one ought to approach this sort of writing and discussion.)

6. Our blog lands somewhere between an e-mail discussion list and a published theological journal. Less from-the-hip than e-mail groups, but less formal than a publication. Bear in mind that your posts can be edited (or removed) after the fact; so don't agonize over every jot and tittle up front, as though your posts had to be perfect from the outset. That's not to advocate recklessness, but do not be so scrupulous that you hesitate to say anything.

7. Our blog is something like an online Logia, and your posts may be compared to the "Theological Observer" in the CTQ, or the "Public Square" in First Things. Only this forum is much faster and allows for considerably more give and take, not only amongst ourselves but with others, too.

8. Make an effort to post at least once every other month. The more, the better, but don't try to force it. When things come up in the course of your pastoral vocation, consider the possibility of reflecting upon those matters on the blog (with appropriate discretion).

9. When you post something, "label" it with one or more of the twenty-four topics, whichever of those you are addressing. The blog will tally and catologue those things for us, which will be helpful. The precise list of topics may develop over time, but let's follow those parameters along the way; that will help to keep things on track.

10. Once someone has posted on a particular topic, there would be potentially two ways for the rest of us to respond (and we should be inclined to respond, as we are so minded and able): Either by way of comments under the post, which should be the normal approach; or, if you intend to offer a significant critique or a substantial addition, then you could write a follow-up post of your own. The goal, obviously, is not to compete with one another, but to dialogue with each other, to discuss and even to debate, as the case may be.

11. Don't blog in a spirit of melancholy, despair or bitterness. You don't serve yourself or your neighbor when you succumb to such things. At such times, seek out a father in Christ to lift you up and sustain you with the Gospel. Once you have been brought from trial and tribulation into renewed faith, then you might consider sharing aspects of that burden on the blog, retrospectively, in a way that helps to lead your readers into repentant faith along with you. It is one of the ways in which the cross bears fruit, not only in you and for your benefit, but also for the benefit of your neighbor. The hymns of Paul Gerhardt are such an example. Consider how comforting and helpful they are, because they always confess such faith in the Gospel: precisely in, with and under the Cross. By contrast, imagine the difference if Gerhardt had wallowed in self-pity and despair, instead of confessing the Gospel.

12. Our cooperative blog is not the place for posting sermons or extended quotations or lists of things or personal family adventures (though in some cases such things may provide the context for theological commentary). If you want to quote something, fine, but do so for the sake of providing your own assessment and constructive critique (whether pro or con).

Four and Twenty+ Blackbirds

26 August 2009

Edward Kennedy Gets a Mass?

4 comments:

Facebook Page

The Twenty-Four Elders (and a few living creatures)

The Twenty-Four Topics

Blog Archive

The Mutual Conversation of the Brethren

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, et al.

On the Windowsill

Regular Readers

Contact the Administrator

Rubrics and Blogistics for the Blackbirds

Four and Twenty+ Blackbirds

26 August 2009

Edward Kennedy Gets a Mass?

4 comments:

Facebook Page

The Twenty-Four Elders (and a few living creatures)

The Twenty-Four Topics

Blog Archive

The Mutual Conversation of the Brethren

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, et al.

On the Windowsill

Regular Readers

Contact the Administrator

Rubrics and Blogistics for the Blackbirds

Subscribe to Four-and-Twenty Blackbirds